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Pro/Con: is Occupy Wall Street effective?

Occupy Wall Street’s mid-September protests In New York City’s Financial District gained momentum and inspired numerous “Occupy” movements. The groups operate under the mantra, “We are the 99 percent.” Members of the grassroots movements have camped out in parks and public areas in over 1,500 cities around the world. They strive to lower corporate influence in the democratic process and combat the inequality that leaves the richest one percent with more net worth than the rest of the population combined. Many Americans have questioned, however, whether these movements bring about real change.

Occupy Wall Street will force financial reassessment, effect real change

By Isaac Rubin

Critics of Occupy Wall Street have labeled the movement as socialist, Marxist and anarchist. They’ve gone so far as to call its members lunatics, shaggy soldiers and petulant little children “bent on destroying capitalism.” These criticisms are misguided and serve no purpose but to undermine the movement’s importance as a major political effort to shift the focus of our democracy back to the “99 percent.”Many journalists, political figures and corporate entities have blatantly insulted the movement; they’ve even questioned the personal hygiene of the movement’s members. These insults illustrate inconsequential details of OWS’s demographics while ignoring its substantive— if vague—beliefs.

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Contrary to the charges of many critics, the majority of the public agrees with OWS and its beliefs. 54 percent of Americans said they either agree or mostly agree with OWS demands, according to a poll by Time magazine.

Any perception of OWS as radical is misguided. Only four percent of protesters want the movement to achieve radical redistribution of wealth, and only six percent say income inequality is what frustrates them most about the political process, according to The Wall Street Journal’s Doug Schoen. A much more substantial 35 percent said they want the movement to be the democratic equivalent of the Tea Party—that is, exert enough influence to shift the political spectrum to the left. Taken holistically, OWS’s aims aren’t nearly as radical as some members of the media and politicians have claimed.

Though OWS’s demands appear scattered and nebulous, protesting economic inequality is a defining characteristic of the movement. Considering the current economic recession, the protests are completely justified. A worker earning minimum wage makes roughly $16,000 per year, while Lehman Brothers CEO Dick Fuld made more than $533.7 million from 2000 to 2007, according to a 2010 paper published in “The Yale Journal on Regulation.” Sixty-eight percent of millionaires support raising taxes on themselves, according to a recent survey by Spectrem Group.

Warren Buffett has been a particularly vocal advocate of raising taxes on the mega-rich. In an October opinion published in the New York Times, Buffett wrote, “my friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress. It’s time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice.” Sharing wealth for the benefit of the majority is an idea supported by many wealthy citizens, further justifying tax hikes during our current economic crisis.

Members of OWS also “vow to end the monied corruption of our democracy,” according to the movement’s website. Members support tax hikes for the rich and an end to government bailouts and subsidies for “too-big-to-fail” corporations. OWS has yet to demonstrate a clear method of how they would resolve these issues, but the protests are valuable more in the problems they illuminate than in the solutions they fail to present.

Fox senior media correspondent Dennis Kneale labels OWS supporters as “unwashed and miffed masses,” calling them “the self-pitying, the self-entitled and the self-serving.” Like many others, Kneale prefers to dismiss the movement altogether rather than actually address the issues that OWS is fighting. Stereotyping and insulting are easy ways to avoid discussing the goals of the movement. The scale and sheer power of Occupy Wall Street will force a total reassessment of the role of corporate dollars in the nation’s democracy.

Occupy Wall Street is disorganized, lacks cohesive objective

By Paris Rogers

Everyone has seen videos and pictures of Occupy Wall Street’s witty signs in New York, Chicago, London, Paris, D.C. and hundreds of other cities. Its members demand real change, but how exactly, do they plan to create their social justice?

The members of OWS consider their movement to be in the same vein as the Tahrir Square uprising of the Arab Spring. In reality, it doesn’t come close to having the same significance or cohesion. The events of the Arab Spring were impressive because of the clarity of the protesters’ demands and the speed with which the movement gained support from a large majority of citizens. OWS has neither of these qualities.

That lack of clarity is a primary issue: they openly admit to a lack of one overall solution and consider it a strength of the movement. Instead of creating a list of plans for the movement as a whole, the members gather every night in a meeting called “General Assembly” to voice all of their individual concerns. OWS says the absence of a clear central message is what sets the movement apart from other protests, but if the members of the group have no manifesto to follow, they can never truly effect positive change in the political and financial worlds.

Without the support of a definitive majority of the citizenship, OWS will never have the cohesiveness of the Arab Spring. Only 54 percent of Americans view the OWS movement in a favorable light, according to a poll published Oct. 13 by Time Magazine. Support from 54 percent of the citizenship may be enough to win an election, but OWS is not attempting to run for office; it seeks to change the status quo. More than a slight majority is necessary to enact real, permanent and sweeping reform in any society.

Looking at the actions of members of OWS and its sub-groups, it’s no wonder that the movement doesn’t have the full support of the country. Members run amok on city streets, causing traffic jams and disrespecting police. Protesters from Occupy DC assembled Oct. 22 at the intersection of 15th and K Streets, blocking all traffic for 20 minutes. Police were present, but their main duty was to protect the protesters and redirect traffic. Still, the members of Occupy DC openly harassed members of law enforcement stationed to protect them. One protester stepped up to a DCPD officer and said, “I pay your salary, pig. I own you.” The blatant disregard for authority found in OWS and its subsidiaries doesn’t lend legitimacy to the movement.

Not every protester at OWS acts with such disrespect, however. There are plenty of hard-working and respectful people at these demonstrations. But their voices can’t be heard over the 20-somethings who cover their faces with bandanas while shouting at police officers.

At the root of it all, the public should question the point of these protests. OWS is completely mishandling an opportunity to create long-lasting change. Yes, the economy is bad, and there’s a growing disparity between the rich and the poor. But movements like OWS aren’t suggesting solutions. Without a clear, central message, OWS will always be perceived as a protest for the sake of protest.

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    Cameron FrankJan 18, 2012 at 9:24 am

    @Danny McClanhan: Considering that this is the first protesting movement to fully utilize the horrors of the internet, it does make a significant amount of sense that there are people who beleive that this movement will “save them economically.” Ideas spread fast here, and they are definately able to corrupt the human mind, and make them believe things that are absolutely false. Needless to say, this movement does not deserve the amount of attention it is getting, and memes like Pepper Spray Cop are shameful and undermine the good the police force, as well as America’s economy is going through at this time. The butthurt people of the 1%, in my opinion, are just protesting to gain status on the internet, which is shameful in my mind.
    Sincerely,
    Cameron Frank, a member of the 99%, soon to be 100%, I hope.

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    Lady LuckDec 9, 2011 at 11:11 am

    It’s interesting that, despite this being a very liberal area, so many people here are anti-OWS to the point of hostility. Perhaps it’s because so many of those attending Whitman are part of the 1%.

    Saying that the cases of police brutality were isolated incidents would make sense if there were only a few, but there have been so many reports of ill-treatment and abuse by the police that that argument no longer holds water. Say what you will about OWS’ attitude towards the police, the treatment of the protesters and their property is unacceptable (see the brutal methods used to tear down the Occupy LA camp and the destruction of thousands of dollars worth of the occupiers’ supplies).

    Although his wording is somewhat harsh at times (tone down the vitriol a bit, Finn, and you’ll be there) I have to agree with Finn.

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    Annoyed PerosnDec 2, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Finn, the fact that theses people are the only thing giving you hope is extremely sad.

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    average studentDec 2, 2011 at 8:03 am

    it looks like its got people talking so even tho i agree its unorganized and somewhat dissallusioned id say its succsefull
    oh and just to be fair if fox donst count as a news source neither does msnbc they are not as radicial but they are getting there

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    average studentDec 2, 2011 at 8:00 am

    the goal of any protest is not to create an actual policy change but to get people talking about needing policy chamge. I agree that the movement may be unorganized but looking at the conversation here id say they were succesful in getting people talking

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    Danny McClanahanDec 1, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Finn, you’re generalizing the behavior of a few to a ridiculous extent, acting as if a few isolated incidents represent the entirety of the police force, the opposition to the Occupy movements, and the protesters themselves, while disregarding evidence to the contrary, such as the incident Paris detailed in his/her portion. Just because a few police officers decided to be sadistic idiots doesn’t mean every police officer does the same, and it certainly doesn’t signify anything about the movement itself. In addition, not every (or in fact any, since we’re discounting Fox) news station completely writes off the Occupy movements at all; watching CNN about a week ago, I was treated to a pro/con segment very similar to the one this article details. However, the cohesion of the ideas of the movement is very weak.

    Sure, they generally agree that the reduction of economic inequality (which is an ideal I personally agree with) is a good thing, and one of their overriding goals, but the fact remains that outside of that, they’re not protesting *for* anything. The reduction of economic inequality is an incredibly vast field, which includes a huge number of possible solutions, but the Occupy movements aren’t really protesting for any sort of solution, just that it gets “fixed.” If they were protesting the proposed reinstatement of the tax cut on people who earn over $250,000 a year, which is due to run out quite soon, then they’d actually be asking for something. In fact, some are asking for just that, as a quick google search returns. But most are simply there just to protest against economic inequality, and anecdotal interviews I’ve seen have made it clear that at least some are just annoyed because they lost their job and are blaming it on “big business” and “corporate greed,” which demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the economic system, and is a good example of the lack of an actual cohesive goal that Paris details and that you discount. While the Occupy movement is a nice idea and represents precisely the change that so much of the nation wants, its lack of an actual goal makes it entirely ineffective, and the corrupt plutocracy you detail doesn’t actually exist.

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    Thurnis HaleyDec 1, 2011 at 9:46 am

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    Annoyed PerosnDec 1, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Finn your completely wrong these people are quitting their jobs and then complaining about the job market, this is simply the stupidest thing going on right not. 90% of these people, when asked, do not know why they are protesting.

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    Finn ToddNov 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Occupy Wall Street is the only thing still giving me hope for this corrupt plutocracy. They are working hard to fight for the disadvantaged in America despite the horrific, unjustified, and absolutely illegal police brutality being directed against them. Paris, I am shocked that you think that the violence and disrespect is being directed towards the police. If others wish, I will provide videos of the ignorance of American rights occuring on the streets right now. The police are not protecting the protesters, they are trying to beat them into submission. Despite what the other commenters here seem to think, the protests are well directed, co-ordinated through various platforms such as Reddit and Twitter. The major news networks may ignore or slander them, seeking to protect their 1% status (Fox News does not count as a credible news source), but the movement is still going strong. Good luck, OWS.

    -Sincerely, a member of the 1% with the 99%

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    Pretty AightNov 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    To be perfectly honest it is not effective. besides it being a good movement for the good of the country, they fall short of many requirements that make things a movement. They fail to have a true largely supported goal. And besides a couple of News stories here and there, they receive nothing more than a few comment and critiscm. Corporations will still trick you and banks will still take your money.

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    NANov 23, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Paris is right, I’ve met many 99%-ers, from cab drivers to relatives, that started out supporting the movement and are now angry that it is so unorganized. A cab driver in Pittsburgh complained to me that these people are protesting because of stuff like the job market, but if they are spending all of their time camping out they obviously aren’t looking very hard for a job. Also, these people are hurting local businesses, becoming violent, and becoming annoying for people that live in the cities they’re occupying. Plus, don’t know if you saw the Daily Show from a few days ago, but they aren’t even united anymore. There are good intentions behind the movement but the way it’s being carried out is ultimately uneffective.

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    ChrisNov 23, 2011 at 8:19 am

    It’s much easier to dismiss them as disorganized and uncivilized than to seriously consider the problems they are protesting against. Also, most critics of the movement are either part of the top one percent or supported by their money.

    The top one percent are dismissing critics of the top one percent. Stop the presses!